Thursday, 28 February 2008

Pissing Contest

I think a good selection of interesting comments is something worth having. They show people are both reading and responding to what you have written.

However, others prefer to be judged by the number of hits their blog has achieved.

Some people never sodding well shut up about it, in fact. My preference for quality over quantity is well known and yet still there are those who fancy a bit of a strut when they cross my path, a bit of crowing.

"I had 2000 hits today," they will state.

"I had 62," I will reply, "but then, I don't have a listing on YouPorn and you do. 2000 people passing through your blog looking for wank fodder is all very well, but do they stay for a chat afterwards? Do they respect you in the morning?"

The answer is, of course, no, but the person with 2000 hits doesn't care as they have a stats stiffy and they are going to wave it about regardless.

What do you reckon? I mean, I know most of us would probably opt to have both - big hits and lots of articulate comments - but if you had to choose, which would win the pissing contest?

21 comments:

upset waitress said...

First.




I wonder how many hits this will get me? :)

bittersweet me said...

some people have no concept of real respect.

I am thrilled that i have commentators that have stuck with me through all the shit .. a year long now!

Anonymous Boxer said...

I'm in sales, so numbers are important to me, and when I started my blog I DID NOT add a sitemeter or comments because I know myself... it would have become about the numbers. I rarely look at my sitemeter, but it took some work. Now.... comments? I love them and firmly believe "less is more" ALWAYS.

Helga Hansen said...

Lol... I have no desire to install a site meter!! If you wanna visit, fine. If you wanna commment, also fine. If you wanna visit and not comment, fine too!

My blog is there for me. I guess it would help more to blog more, write witty blogs that people will laugh at, have little photo pics that people will oooooh at... but just at the moment, I get more pleasure from visiting other fine blogs and being a comment whore! ;^)

Luka said...

Upset Waitress - I would say at least 3.

Me - exactly. You can tell a lot about a blog(ger) from the nature of their commenters.

Anonymous Boxer - I know what you mean, the sitemeter thing can become an obssession.

Helga - that sounds a very healthy approach to me!

Flowering Jasmine said...

I dislike show-offs. A lot. xx

Walker said...

I read the comments I get not count how many times I reload my page LOL

My stat counter says that 50% of my hits are for my sex talks that have been googled.
I write them to excercise my mind some people read them to exercise their hands

Zero comments

20% of my stats are people that googled something that referenced a post as a possible source of info.
Zero comments

10% is me actually going into my page.
Answer comments

The last 20% represent my actual readers and according to my stat counter it's about 20,000 visits in almost 3 years that i have been blogging and i have had about 10,000 comments in the last three years from these people.

That to me is more important than what the number is on my stat counter and the friends I have made in the last three years.
So even though my stat counter says 83,391 only 20,000 of those readers came and read whatever I wrote because they wanted to and thats all that matters.

upset waitress said...

Walker, most people probably can't type with one hand :) I really wish I could comment more on your site though. I surely visit it, but it just makes my computer hate me for some reason. And sometimes I simply get redirected. You should just let me give you a domain I have laying around. The blog software is already installed on the server. Hosting is free. I have several months left on the domain. Email me :)

Sorry I have to communicate with Walker through other blogs Luka. Hey, do you remember that song "My name is Luka"?

peter said...

Quality over quantity, certainly. I did install sitemeter thinking it would be interesting to see where people were coming from. Sitemeter got sick of telling me where that visitor originated.

Ro said...

I'll admit it: I love receiving comments. I love it even more when a proper discussion gets going in the comments.

If I were getting vast numbers of people visiting and no one commenting I'd just assume that I was writing even worse stuff than normal and that would do my fledgeling ego no good whatsoever!

Vi said...

Comments. I don't give a shit about the hits. I just care about the people who care enough to speak back to me. Hey, I'm the type who also comment constantly on bloggers who never comment back! Cause I like them.

Jackie Adshead said...

I'd rather have the articulate comments, and love the feedback I get on my blog regarding it and my website. It is of far more value to me than a large number, but then I prefer the personal connections, and have learnt a lot from the comments I've received. A large stats number would just tell me that people had seen my work, the blogging comments tell me that they respect it/like it/want to buy it etc etc.

Melissaria said...

I recently installed sitemeter, and I'm loving it. Just following back to see what else you can find from other people's Google searches is fascinating - today I idled away a whole 25 minutes looking at other peoples' takes on the concept of 'polishing a turd'. Remarkable.

I'll get a life tomorrow. Promise.

oatmeal girl said...

OK, I'll admit it, I'm a newbie (really new, like maybe 2 weeks), got a site meter, became totally obsessed, and am now forbidden to look at it except on Saturdays. Damn.

But without comments I couldn't tell if even all the half dozen people I had invited to look were actually reading my burblings.

Since I really would rather have the comments, I begged with the excuse that I wasn't allowed to check my stats. Flushed a few people out from the underbrush. Much more fun.

Still, no promises that it means I'll get a life.

Freddy said...

Doesn't this boil down to Blog as personal journal vs Blog as attempt at Book Deal?

My preference was always to have written something that moved people to express an opinion on it. OK, a favourable opinion.
Something like "that was beautifully evocative"
or "Funny I never really thought of you as feminist but after reading this I've changed my mind. Thank you for opening my eyes."

Curvaceous Dee said...

Hmm. I love my regular readers and commenters - they help make the sex-blogging community so fantastic, and encourage me to post. But I also like seeing my stats and knowing where people have clicked through from.

I don't think it has to be a one-or-the-other-deal; it is possible to value both the quality and the quantity.

Just my thoughts :)

xx Dee

Luka said...

Jasmine - me too. Just tell 'em to fuck off.

Walker - I quite agree, it's the friends you make that matter most.

Upset Waitress - I like it when conversations unrelated to my post spring up in the comments box. Much more interesting!

Peter - that made me smile.

Ro - I love a proper conversation, even a debate. It has got me into bother in the past though - especially my views on spouses and respect. I am persona non grata in some quarters for expressing a genuine opinion.

Vi - yes, I really should make more of an effort. I appreciate yours, by the way.

Jackie - that's pretty much how I see it.

Melissaria - oh yes, the google search terms! They are a joy, I agree. I get an awful lot for gear knob sex. And figging.

Oatmeal Girl - hello! Comments give you more feedback I reckon, and are therefore more valuable than just statistics that tell you people were there.

Freddy - good comments - our Glorious Leader will be proud!

Dee - yes, to combine the two would be the ideal, but if I had to choose I would choose comments. As would any right thinking individual, and those who pick hits are misguided fucktards. :)

Sulpicia said...

Comments. Though I confess that I occasionally check stats. Mostly to see if I am writing into the ether.

I also confess that I was better at blogging when I was writing into the ether. Knowing a few people are actually reading has sent me into a temporary spin of self-consciousness. Blog V 1.0 was way more me. And I canned partially BECAUSE readership was increasing This one, not so much me. I’ll get over it. Perhaps taking a lesson from you.

Articulate comments add to my thinking. I need that these days. I do feel isolated up here… The place is so small that if you talk to someone… it really is never private. Ironically, writing the blog was more private. Even with the small handful of readers far-flung.

Unfortunately, I currently don’t have much time to comment. And I actually feel badly about that. I’m always catching up on the blogs I like…

Blah blah blah… comments over stats. Absolutely.

Luka said...

Sulpicia - never feel bad for having a real life! I often don't have time to post, let alone comment elsewhere - it's good to be active in the offline world.

Ms Robinson said...

I don't think figures or book deals are a measure of anything; I mean Petite Anglaise is dull and we know how Ms R feels about others. When a blog gets big it is less a sign of writing than a sign of people wanting to be there. As you point out LUka, if you're not writing about hot, wet, sex, your site numbers are not going to be huge.

Me: Well I like the fact that people are interesting and engaging and make me think.

Luka said...

Ms R - there are parallels with the non blogging writing world, in that Z-list, barely literate celebs can get published and clever, engaging, articulate nobodies get fuck all. It's more about image and popularity than talent, sadly.